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	<title>Comments on: Twenty Questions On Mises, Part II:  Spooky Action at a Distance</title>
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		<title>By: Positive Liberty &#187; Occasional Notes: Puris Omnia Edition</title>
		<link>http://www.positiveliberty.com/2006/11/twenty-questions-on-mises-part-ii-spooky-action-at-a-distance.html#comment-405103</link>
		<dc:creator>Positive Liberty &#187; Occasional Notes: Puris Omnia Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why bin Laden Hates Microfinance Interesting article, but I think the answer is very simple: Bin Laden, as a Muslim fundamentalist, is a throwback to attitudes about money that were near-universal in the ancient world. Mohammed hated interest; so did Aristotle; so did most Christian thinkers until the modern era. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Why bin Laden Hates Microfinance Interesting article, but I think the answer is very simple: Bin Laden, as a Muslim fundamentalist, is a throwback to attitudes about money that were near-universal in the ancient world. Mohammed hated interest; so did Aristotle; so did most Christian thinkers until the modern era. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Positive Liberty &#187; Questions on Mises XV: Theories of Interest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Positive Liberty &#187; Questions on Mises XV: Theories of Interest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It did seem strange to me that, in a book on money and credit, I did not find the first real discussion of interest until near the end of the volume. As I noted in an earlier post of this series, interest was one of the ancient conundrums of money: How was it, Aristotle asked, that sterile lumps of metal should multiply like living things? (And shouldn&#8217;t we do something to stop them?) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It did seem strange to me that, in a book on money and credit, I did not find the first real discussion of interest until near the end of the volume. As I noted in an earlier post of this series, interest was one of the ancient conundrums of money: How was it, Aristotle asked, that sterile lumps of metal should multiply like living things? (And shouldn&#8217;t we do something to stop them?) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Positive Liberty &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Questions on Mises IV: Updates and a Challenge to Historians</title>
		<link>http://www.positiveliberty.com/2006/11/twenty-questions-on-mises-part-ii-spooky-action-at-a-distance.html#comment-198425</link>
		<dc:creator>Positive Liberty &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Questions on Mises IV: Updates and a Challenge to Historians</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 13:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Counterfeiting, coin-clipping, and other acts that interfered with the sovereign&#8217;s ability to mint money and make it circulate were all usually likened to the crime of lèse majesté. We may protest, as antimonarchists, that lèse majesté is an illusory crime. We may also protest, as Austrian economists, that the sovereign no more makes the currency circulate than he makes the earth revolve around the sun. But this is perfectly indifferent to the study of belief. As the adage goes, &#8220;Nonsense is nonsense, but the history of nonsense is scholarship.&#8221; It strikes me that, much like the history of diseases and public health, the social history of economic thought &#8212; really, for much of human experience the history of economic ignorance and superstition &#8212; has yet to be told. How did all of the bad ideas people had about money (cf. Aristotle!) hold back the growth of material civilization and technology? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Counterfeiting, coin-clipping, and other acts that interfered with the sovereign&#8217;s ability to mint money and make it circulate were all usually likened to the crime of lèse majesté. We may protest, as antimonarchists, that lèse majesté is an illusory crime. We may also protest, as Austrian economists, that the sovereign no more makes the currency circulate than he makes the earth revolve around the sun. But this is perfectly indifferent to the study of belief. As the adage goes, &#8220;Nonsense is nonsense, but the history of nonsense is scholarship.&#8221; It strikes me that, much like the history of diseases and public health, the social history of economic thought &#8212; really, for much of human experience the history of economic ignorance and superstition &#8212; has yet to be told. How did all of the bad ideas people had about money (cf. Aristotle!) hold back the growth of material civilization and technology? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Positive Liberty &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Questions on Mises IV: Updates and a Challenge to Historians</title>
		<link>http://www.positiveliberty.com/2006/11/twenty-questions-on-mises-part-ii-spooky-action-at-a-distance.html#comment-198419</link>
		<dc:creator>Positive Liberty &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Questions on Mises IV: Updates and a Challenge to Historians</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 12:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We may protest, as antimonarchists, that lèse majesté is an illusory crime. We may also protest, as Austrian economists, that the sovereign no more makes the currency circulate than he makes the earth revolve around the sun. But this is perfectly indifferent to the study of belief. As the adage goes, &#8220;Nonsense is nonsense, but the history of nonsense is scholarship.&#8221; It strikes me that, much like the history of diseases and public health, the social history of economic thought &#8212; really, for much of human experience the history of economic ignorance and superstition &#8212; has yet to be told. How did all of the bad ideas people had about money (cf. Aristotle!) hold back the growth of material civilization and technology? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We may protest, as antimonarchists, that lèse majesté is an illusory crime. We may also protest, as Austrian economists, that the sovereign no more makes the currency circulate than he makes the earth revolve around the sun. But this is perfectly indifferent to the study of belief. As the adage goes, &#8220;Nonsense is nonsense, but the history of nonsense is scholarship.&#8221; It strikes me that, much like the history of diseases and public health, the social history of economic thought &#8212; really, for much of human experience the history of economic ignorance and superstition &#8212; has yet to be told. How did all of the bad ideas people had about money (cf. Aristotle!) hold back the growth of material civilization and technology? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Kuznicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Kuznicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMW --

Excellent points.  Mises himself also addressed many of my questions about money as a commodity later on, in the sections where he considers whether money is a consumption good, a production good, or a third and significantly different kind of good.  He settles on the latter, which made much sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMW &#8211;</p>
<p>Excellent points.  Mises himself also addressed many of my questions about money as a commodity later on, in the sections where he considers whether money is a consumption good, a production good, or a third and significantly different kind of good.  He settles on the latter, which made much sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: AMW</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,

Historically, money has just been a good that everyone (or at least most people) in an economy wants.  As such, it is something that you can be sure you can trade for some other good that you want, and therefore you (and your potential trading partners) become very willing to trade other goods for the money good, even if you don't have any particular use for the money good at the moment.  So money is a good (i.e., commodity) whose universal standing as a valuable item facilitates trade.  That is, it is a facilitator &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; it is a commodity.

I will also note that money does not &lt;i&gt;require&lt;/i&gt; a third party to exchange to facilitate exchange (though it helps).  A dimension of time is a sufficient condition.  For example, let's say you raise wheat and I am a shoe cobbler.  You want some shoes, but the harvest is three months away.  You might want to promise wheat in the future for shoes today, but maybe I think it's too big a risk that hail will destroy your crop, or that you will renege.  However, you happen to have this yellow metal, gold, that both of us agree is desirable to posess.  You can trade the gold to me today, and I know that since you also value gold, I can trade it back to you in three months time for some wheat.  Or, even if your crop fails, at least I've got the gold, which I value.

I will not quarrel with you that in bilateral economies money is of significantly lower use as a facilitator of exchange.  But it could still prove useful in coordinating exchange through time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>Historically, money has just been a good that everyone (or at least most people) in an economy wants.  As such, it is something that you can be sure you can trade for some other good that you want, and therefore you (and your potential trading partners) become very willing to trade other goods for the money good, even if you don&#8217;t have any particular use for the money good at the moment.  So money is a good (i.e., commodity) whose universal standing as a valuable item facilitates trade.  That is, it is a facilitator <i>because</i> it is a commodity.</p>
<p>I will also note that money does not <i>require</i> a third party to exchange to facilitate exchange (though it helps).  A dimension of time is a sufficient condition.  For example, let&#8217;s say you raise wheat and I am a shoe cobbler.  You want some shoes, but the harvest is three months away.  You might want to promise wheat in the future for shoes today, but maybe I think it&#8217;s too big a risk that hail will destroy your crop, or that you will renege.  However, you happen to have this yellow metal, gold, that both of us agree is desirable to posess.  You can trade the gold to me today, and I know that since you also value gold, I can trade it back to you in three months time for some wheat.  Or, even if your crop fails, at least I&#8217;ve got the gold, which I value.</p>
<p>I will not quarrel with you that in bilateral economies money is of significantly lower use as a facilitator of exchange.  But it could still prove useful in coordinating exchange through time.</p>
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		<title>By: Scof</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wish I had more time to comment at present, but lemme just say I'll be reading all 20!  These first two have been great,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wish I had more time to comment at present, but lemme just say I&#8217;ll be reading all 20!  These first two have been great,</p>
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