The Three Stooges of The Confederacy
Timothy Sandefur on Sep 8th 2006
Amusingly, three of the leading Doughface Libertarians at the Lew Rockwell blog have taken time to comment on (without linking to) my recent mention of their various errors in Constitutional interpretation. Let’s take them one at a time.
First up is Thomas DiLorenzo, who says that I lie about his work. Well, here’s what I said. I said that DiLorenzo published a review of Andrew Napolitano’s Constitution in Exile without mentioning that DiLorenzo’s work is heavily relied upon by Napolitano. This is considered improper among people who write book reviews, and for good reason. Now, in my post, I wrote that DiLorenzo’s writings were “almost the exclusive foundation for the book under review.” Now, I should have said “for the relevant chapter in the book under review,” because, as DiLorenzo rightly claims, it is only the chapter on secession that relies almost exclusively on DiLorenzo’s amateurish and misleading work. This was a mistake on my part, although a completely irrelevant one, since this is the chapter relating to the subject at hand (and the one DiLorenzo calls “the most brilliant chapter”). DiLorenzo, by contrast, purposely failed to acknowledge that the book he was praising so highly relies heavily on his own work, and therefore that he was essentially applauding himself in the face of the public—something that, again, is considered improper among book reviewers, without at least a disclaimer. That, after being called on this stunt, DiLorenzo would then call me a “lying little twit” is simply ridiculous. But it is unfortunately, not unusual for DiLorenzo, who is well known to make fast and loose with the truth when doing so suits his bombast.
Second comes Thomas Woods, author of The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History, who argues against my contention that the Constitution is not a league among sovereign states. I make this argument (among other places) in my recent Reason Papers article, and back it up with citation after citation and example after example, among which is the following exchange which occurred at the Virginia Ratification Convention:
Patrick Henry: “Who authorized [the Constitutional Convention] to speak the language of We the people, instead of We, the States? States are the characteristics, and the soul of a confederation”
James Madison: “Should all the states adopt it, it will be then a government established by the thirteen states of America, not through the intervention of the legislatures, but by the people at large. In this particular respect, the distinction between the existing and proposed governments is very material. The existing system has been derived from the dependent derivative authority of the legislatures of the states; whereas this is derived from the superior power of the people…. Thus [the Constitution] is of a complicated nature; and this complication, I trust, will be found to exclude the evils of absolute consolidation, as well as of a mere confederacy. If Virginia was separated from all the states, her power and authority would extend to all cases: in like manner, were all powers vested in the general government, it would be a consolidated government; but the powers of the federal government are enumerated; it can only operate in certain cases; it has legislative powers on defined and limited objects, beyond which it cannot extend its jurisdiction.”
(If Dr. Woods would like to look this up, he can find it at 2 B. Bailyn, Debate on The Constitution 596-619 (1993) (emphasis added)).
Yet, ignoring incidents like these, Dr. Woods writes that the “Federalists—that’s right, Tim, [the] FEDERALISTS” convinced “the entire Virginia ratifying convention,” that the Constitution was “precisely a LEAGUE AMONG STATES.” He provides no citation, no quotation, no evidence whatsoever to support this foolishly unqualified, not to mention wholly untrue, claim. This is, alas, all too common with Dr. Woods, for whom evidence has never mattered very much.
He then goes on to claim that Virginia reserved a power to secede “if anything more than what [Virginia] expressly delegated to the federal government were attempted to be exercised.” Of course, Virginia never delegated any powers to the federal government; the people of Virginia chose to delegate some of their power to the federal government, and other power to the state government. This may seem a subtle distinction, but it is an essential one. As the The Federalist (that’s right, Tom, The FEDERALIST) tells us, the Constitution was written precisely to end “[t]he great and radical vice in the construction of the [Articles of] Confederation,” which was “the principle of LEGISLATION for STATES or GOVERNMENTS, in their CORPORATE or COLLECTIVE CAPACITIES, and as contradistinguished from the INDIVIDUALS of which they consist.” The Constitution was therefore not created by the states or ratified by state legislatures, but was ratified by the people in special conventions, to be binding on and derived from, the people, and not the states.
But let’s assume that Woods is right; that there is such a thing as a conditional ratification (which there isn’t), and that Virginia had the right to secede if the feds exceeded their powers (which it doesn’t). Now the question is, what act on the part of the federal government exceeded these bounds in 1861? According to the seceding states, the answer was, the threat to prohibit the extension of slavery into the western territories—a power which the federal government undeniably possessed under the Constitution. So, even under Woods’ faulty constitutional theory, the claimed right to secede was invalid.
It’s amusing to see Woods reaching for, of all things, a secondary source making claims about the (notoriously waffling) views of Edmund Randolph, and ignoring the views of James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, James Wilson, and many others, including the anti-federalists (yes, Tom, the ANTI-FEDERALISTS) whom I quote in my Reason Papers article. What did the anti-federalists say?
“[s]uch is the anxiety manifested by the framers of the proposed constitution, for the utter extinction of the state sovereignties, that they were not content with taking from them every attribute of sovereignty, but would not leave them even the name.—Therefore, in the very commencement they prescribe this remarkable declaration—We the People of the United States” (1 Bailyn at 118-19).
“when the people [of each state] shall adopt the proposed…it will be adopted not by the people of New Hampshire, Massachusetts, &c., but by the people of the United States…” (1 Bailyn at 275).
“if it is ratified, [it] will not be a compact entered into by the States, in their corporate capacities, but an agreement of the people of the United States as one great body politic…. It is to be observed, it is not a union of states or bodies corporate; had this been the case the existence of the state governments might have been secured. But it is a union of the people of the United States considered as one body, who are to ratify this constitution, if it is adopted” (4 P. Kurland & R. Lerner eds., The Founders’ Constitution 237 (1987)).
If even the anti-federalists understood the Constitution as a Constitution, and not as a treaty, how much harder it is for Woods to claim that somehow Americans were “sold” a lie in 1788. There is a difference between a Constitution and a treaty, and the Constitution is—obvious to any fair-minded observer—the former, and not the latter. And, alas for Woods, Edmund Randolph never promised anything like a right to secede (nor could he have). As Akhil Amar writes (and my apologies to Stephan Kinsella for quoting a non-libertarian expert on the Constitution): “no major proponent of the Constitution sought to win over states’ rightists by conceding that states could unilaterally nullify or secede in the event of perceived national abuses. The Federalists’ silence is especially impressive because such a concession might have dramatically improved the document’s ratification prospects in several states” (Akhil Amar, Of Sovereignty and Federalism, 96 Yale L.J. 1425, 1462 n.162 (1987)).
Finally, we come to Kinsella. Here’s the substance of his comment: Sandefur is a “faux-libertarian Lincoln idolator and lover of centralism”; a “bizarrely smug, self-important twit,” who is “not…worth responding to.”
Evidently not! After all, in the post that provoked the Stooges so much, I was complaining that Kinsella continues to claim that Thomas Jefferson endorsed secession, when in fact, we know from his writings that he did not—and that, despite my repeated invitations, Mr. Kinsella has failed to come forth with any kind of response or retraction. And here, once again, Kinsella proves my point about his intellectual dishonesty, by responding to my perfectly valid point with “Ha ha ha…[&c]…ROTFL!” Now, there’s a name for this logical fallacy, just as there are names for the other logical fallacies that Woods and DiLorezno engage in. But for me to cite them would probably make me smug and self-important and whatnot.
I am reminded of the famous story of Thomas Huxley’s debate about evolution with Bishop Wilberforce. Wilberforce got up and demanded that Huxley tell the audience whether he was descended from an ape on his mother’s side or his father’s side. Huxley responded that he would rather be descended from that noble animal than from a man who introduces ridicule and levity into a serious scientific proceeding. The Doughfaces, alas, embarrass both themselves and their readers with such “arguments,” and, like Wilberforce before them, essentially confess the emptiness of their beliefs.
Update: Comments are open.
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I agree that the issue of constitutional rights is very complicated with contextual issues of necessity needed to be taken into account, but as a legal scholar perhaps you could answer what kind of a legal binding contract the consitution is, especially since no one signed it to say that they are bound by it. Could I write up a piece of paper, get no one to sign it, then hold it over their heads for generations, or is there some legal discrepancy involved that I have overlooked?
Also, I do not believe that the appeal to ridicule is a fallacy. Lord Acton who was a libertarian on the side of the Southern States (is that your opinion of his letter of support to Lee?) believed that ridicule is important for the sake of historical science, though Kinsella, Woods, DiLorenzo and the other crazy “libertarians” wouldn’t go that far.
I wonder if irony can be overstated?
I think that you are totally wrong here. The proximate cause of the secession of Virginia and three other Southern states was not the slavery issue but was Lincoln’s call for 75,000 volunteers to invade the South. Also, I think that the slavery issue was largely a pretext for the secession of the original seven Confederate states and that the bigger reasons were tariffs and a desire to divert trade to Southern ports. Also, you completely ignore the Supreme Court’s Dred Scott ruling that Congress had no authority to bar or restrict the extension of slavery into the Western territories (I think that the Supreme Court was wrong here, but that is another matter). I think that the secessionists just felt that the slavery issue was a better argument for secession than the tariffs issue because in the slavery issue the secessionists could argue that Republican opposition to the territorial expansion of slavery (as well as Northern Democrat Stephen Douglas’s popular sovereignty doctrine) threatened to violate the Constitution as interpreted by the Dred Scott decision. The Confederate states ignored major Northern concessions on the slavery issue, such as the proposed irreversible constitutional amendment that would have forever barred the federal government from interfering with slavery in the states. Congress submitted this amendment to the states for ratification and Lincoln said in his first inaugural address that he had no objection to this amendment (though presidents have no official role in the ratification of constitutional amendments). Secession actually hurt rather than helped the interests of the slaveowners. Also, I suspect that one of the reasons why the Constitution was silent on the issue of secession was that the framers could not conceive of one state invading another to prevent secession. Anyway, I think that you are looking at these issues from the perspective of 2006 rather than 1861.
[...] Doherty is clearly uncomfortable with the relations between Objectivism and other aspects of the libertarian movement. That’s understandable: Rand’s attacks on libertarians were bitter and sometimes misguided, and the same goes for those of her followers. On the other hand, many of her criticisms were also quite on target. As Doherty acknowledges, Rand’s hostility to the libertarianism of the ‘60s was largely based on its seeming domination by Rothbard and his followers. But it wasn’t just their lack of a deep philosophical structure that bothered Rand, as Doherty implies. Rothbard and his followers were often so hostile to “the state” that they failed to distinguish between different types of states, and lost their focus on liberty as a guiding principle. This led not only to the misguided view among some libertarians that the Constitution of 1787 was “counter-revolutionary,” but eventually to Rothbard’s insane reaction to the fall of Saigon as worthy of applause, and then to the Lew Rockwell crowd’s neo-Confederacy writings and the pro-dictator ramblings of Justin Raimondo. These people have so lost focus on individual liberty as a guiding principle that they are anti-war and anti-state more than they are pro-freedom. [...]
Hi, I’m naive here. Wasn’t the Constitution designed to replace the Articles of Confederation? That was how it was explained to me in very simple terms a long time ago. In the AoC in the second paragraph it very clearly states: [The] “Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union between the states …(enumerated states)”.
That language is never changed in the superseding Constitution. In other words, the assembly of people or states that defines the United States is perpetual in essence. Therefore, there is no right to secede ever.
These are solely my ignorant views on the subject based on my limited reading of the subject area.
Ultimately, the problem modern Southerners face when confronting the legacy of the Confederacy is the institution of slavery. It seems to me that the Southerners look back on history and see this period of secession, a lost war, with fingers pointing at Southerners for being the ‘bad guys’ - its oversimplified of course, but somehow, someway Southerners desire a proud history. Since the existence of the institution of slavery is undeniable, it seems to me that the neo-Confederate line of thought must necessarily discount slavery as a motivating factor in secession. Because naturally if you follow the neo-Confederate line of thought to its logical outcome: ie. Slavery wasn’t the reason for secession and secession is legal, well, naturally that makes the North the ‘bad guys’ and the Southerners the chivalric defenders of the noble Lost Cause of state’s rights.
John Kitchling writes, “Ultimately, the problem modern Southerners face when confronting the legacy of the Confederacy is the institution of slavery.”
Speaking as a modern southerner, let me suggest that this is no problem at all. There is simply no reason for me to try to justify slavery or the Confederacy. The north was the good side in that fight. My heroes are the abolitionists, and then the radical Republicans who penned and pushed through the postwar amendments. My ancestors simply fought for the wrong cause.
Problem resolved.
To Keith Sader:
You are not naive. You are correct. While the Articles of Confederation clearly defined states as sovereign, the Constitution does not. It is absurd to believe that all those lawyers at the constitutional convention would have failed to include the language had they believed so strongly in state sovereignty. The people, not the state legislatures, ratified our governing document. What resulted from the ratification of the Constitution was an entity that was greater than the sum of its parts.
To all those who say there is no right to secession, I would like to hear your moral justification for preventing a group of people from doing so, instead of what some goddamn piece of paper says about the matter.
When the justification for secession, as in the case of the CSA, is the continued enslavement of another group of people, then there is *no* justification.
When there are actual grievances like unjust taxation, ethnic cleansing, or religious suppression then there is an inherent right to secede from the parent state. This was covered in the Declaration of Independence.