Some Thoughts on Kidnapping
Jason Kuznicki on Jan 31st 2006
In a puzzling post below, Sandefur weighs in on kidnapping. He seems to argue as follows:
1. It’s not acceptable to kidnap people.
2. However, the kidnapping story came from Reuters. Because of one boneheaded editorial decision (declining to use the word “terrorist”), no story from Reuters may be given any credibility. Besides, the Reuters staff in Israel once did something very stupid (n.b.: the Israeli Reuters contingent does not seem to have worked on the story in question).
3. We have not seen in what context an American soldier wrote the following words: “”What are you guys doing to try to get the husband — have you tacked a note on the door and challenged him to come get his wife?” Perhaps there’s some chance that this doesn’t really denote a kidnapping. Sandefur may be on the strongest ground of all with this point, but again, I’m not terribly impressed. It seems the plain meaning of the phrase — and hence the presumption we ought to have — is in favor of the kidnapping hypothesis.
4. There is also some chance that the kidnapped women and children may have been terrorists themselves; after all, it has happened before. By inference, Sandefur seems to suggest that it is relatively more legitimate to kidnap suspects than others. By similar inference, it is relatively more legitimate to use these suspects for blackmail against others who are, again, only suspects.
I hope that Sandefur did not intend for us to make these inferences — yet otherwise, why would he bring up this point?
5. The kidnapped women and children weren’t abused. Again by inference, the whole thing is relatively more legitimate. Relatively, perhaps, but I still don’t like the looks of it.
The comments are open, and I welcome responses there.
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Phone Call Surveillance Debate Continues
Timothy Sandefur on Jan 31st 2006
David Rivkin and Richard Epstein debate the NSA’s telephone surveillance program and the scope of executive power. A must-read! (Start from the bottom.) I think it obvious that Epstein wins this argument.
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Why We Should Withhold Judgment Until We Know The Facts
Timothy Sandefur on Jan 30th 2006
Kuznicki is right, of course, that for us to seize innocent women and children and hold them as hostages for terrorists to come out of hiding is simply not an acceptable military tactic. However, 1) this story is from Reuters, which long ago sacrificed its claims of reliability as far as I’m concerned, 2) it’s based on excerpts from sources we are not being allowed to see for greater context, 3) it would be highly naive for us to assume that the wives of terrorists are necessarily innocent civilian bystanders who have nothing to do with their husbands’ business, and 4) one notes there is no accusation that these women were abused. What we ought to do with stories like this is wait for more information before assuming that our military is guilty of wrongdoing. They might be, and they might not be.
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California Lawyer
Timothy Sandefur on Jan 30th 2006
The California Lawyer article about me is now up. Subscribers only, unfortunately, but there’s still a nice little picture….
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My Freedom Does Not Require This Protection
Jason Kuznicki on Jan 30th 2006
Wow. I quit blogging for a few days, and this is what happens. The United States has been kidnapping civilians to use as hostages.
U.S. forces in Iraq, in two instances described in military documents, took custody of the wives of men believed to be insurgents in an apparent attempt to pressure the suspects into giving themselves up.
Both incidents occurred in 2004. In one, members of a shadowy military task force seized a mother who had three young children, still nursing the youngest, “in order to leverage” her husband’s surrender, according to an account by a civilian Defense Intelligence Agency intelligence officer.
Let’s be clear about this. These are not unsubstantiated claims, not rumors, and not — so far as we know — falsifications. They are actual U.S. military documents. They detail a practice that is forbidden by the Geneva conventions, to which we are signatories. This practice happened (and for all we know, is still happening) in a conflict zone, Iraq, where the conventions are unquestionably in effect.
Where is the outrage at this? When FARC does this in Colombia, we are outraged. But when our own armed forces kidnaps women and children, we should rally round the flag, because it’s so good that we are willing to take extraordinary steps to protect our freedom.
I hope I don’t speak only for myself when I say that my own freedom does not require this protection.
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Whiggism and Criticism: Thoughts on Amar and Historiography
Jason Kuznicki on Jan 30th 2006
In his magisterial work America’s Constitution: A Biography, Akhil Reed Amar declares his intentions early: “If this be Whiggism,” he writes, “Americans should make the most of it (p 19).”
Amar keeps his Whiggish tone throughout the book. His message is that while the document and its various writers have certainly made their share of mistakes, the good of the Constitution far outweighs the bad. He resists — at times with a fair bit of bluster — the academic temptation to describe our founding document as a simple power grab by the wealthy. He also resists criticizing the Constitution, as some libertarian commenters have, for being an imposition upon state sovereignty. In Amar’s view, the people, not the states, are sovereign (a view that I share). And for the most part, Amar finds that the Constitution has served its sovereigns as well as anyone might reasonably expect.
One key argument that Amar repeats throughout the work is that the Constitution of 1787 was remarkably democratic for the era in which it was approved, that it was approved through a process that was still more democratic, and that, even on those topics where it erred most appallingly — the failure to prohibit slavery, for instance — the document could not have done otherwise and survived. Nearly everything worked out as well as one might hope for, and it put us on the path to better and better things.
By now, the professional historian may be permitted to scoff.
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Benedict the pro-gay Straussian?
Jonathan Rowe on Jan 30th 2006
At the same time, I have to say I’m struck by the references in the document. It’s pretty stunning to me that Benedict should cite Plato’s Symposium for his definition of eros. This sentence is mind-blowing:
“That love between man and woman which is neither planned nor willed, but somehow imposes itself upon human beings, was called eros by the ancient Greeks.”
Er, not exactly. For the Greeks, eros meant a kind of longing. Plato saw it as bound up in the search for truth, as well as for beauty. But also - critically - it describes same-sex love as well as opposite-sex love. The Symposium, the source of Benedict’s description of eros, treats same-sex love interchangeably with opposite-sex love, and the myth cited by Aristophanes even places same-sex erotic love on a higher plane than mere heterosexuality. (I’m even hoping to use the passage in my own marriage service, and began my anthology on gay marriage by citing it.) Benedict must know this. He’s a deeply learned man. Why rest his own treatment on sources that clearly embrace gay love? Beats me. He even cites Virgil’s Eclogues, a deeply homoerotic work. Part of me thinks that Benedict’s anti-gay posture is just orthodoxy, made more reactionary by the social revolution of our time. And then I wonder if he doesn’t have an esoteric meaning as well. Nothing in this encyclical couldn’t apply to same-sex eros; his bigoted Instruction has helped expose the fact that the Church is a deeply homosexual institution, and in the West, at least, there’s no real attempt (so far) to purge gay seminarians and priests. Maybe the Instruction’s unpersuasive and naked bigotry is esoterically designed to advance the argument that gay people are obviously not “objectively disordered” in such a way to render them unfit for the priesthood. Is Benedict quietly showing the validity of same-sex eros and equal dignity of same-sex eros, even while publicly denouncing it? Or have I read too much Leo Strauss? Probably the latter.
Speaking of the Straussians, see this excellent article by Robert Kagan entitled, I Am Not a Straussian. My favorite part:
As best I can recall, their biggest point of contention was whether Plato was just kidding in The Republic. Bloom said he was just kidding. I later learned that this idea–that the greatest thinkers in history never mean what they say and are always kidding–is a core principle of Straussianism. My friend, the late Al Bernstein, also taught history at Cornell. He used to tell the story about how one day some students of his, coming directly from one of Bloom’s classes, reported that Bloom insisted Plato did not mean what he said in The Republic. To which Bernstein replied: “Ah, Professor Bloom wants you to think that’s what he believes. What he really believes is that Plato did mean what he said.”
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L.A. Times on Eminent Domain Ballot Propositions
Timothy Sandefur on Jan 30th 2006
Today’s Times has this article on the ballot propositions in California to reform eminent domain.
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The Bible on Eminent Domain
Timothy Sandefur on Jan 30th 2006
My colleague Dave Breemer points out that the book of Micah has something to say about eminent domain abuse:
Woe to them that devise iniquity, and work evil upon their beds! when the morning is light, they practise it, because it is in the power of their hand. And they covet fields, and take them by violence; and houses, and take them away: so they oppress a man and his house, even a man and his heritage. Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, against this family do I devise an evil, from which ye shall not remove your necks; neither shall ye go haughtily: for this time is evil.
Mic. 2:1-3.
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Constitutional Originalism and Biblical Literalism
Ed Brayton on Jan 30th 2006
James Ryan has a very interesting review of two books that critique originalism as a compelling theory of constitutional interpretation available at SSRN (it will be published in the Stanford Law Review soon). One of the books he reviews, Active Liberty, is written by none other than Supreme Court Justice Steven Breyer and it is aimed primarily at Justice Scalia’s brand of originalism. Breyer and Scalia have appeared at forums together essentially debating this subject over the last few years, which I would pay good money to see as I think they are the two finest minds on the court. This book, no doubt, is intended to be a response to Scalia’s 1997 book A Matter of Interpretation.
The other book being reviewed is Radicals in Robes: Why Extreme Right Wing Courts are Wrong for America by liberal law professor Cass Sunstein. Of the two, Ryan appears to prefer Breyer’s book and he says that while offering up good arguments against originalism and compelling examples of where those who claim to be originalists have left their originalism behind in order to reach a desired result, neither of them offers up a coherent alternative to originalism as the correct theory of interpretation. But I suspect that, in fact, neither of them would consider that a weakness; indeed, I suspect both would argue that there is no single true method of interpretation.
I’m going to quote a fairly long excerpt from Ryan’s review below the fold, dealing primarily with Scalia’s inconsistencies in regard to originalism and then draw some parallels between conservative judicial positions and conservative religious positions.
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Radio Drama
Timothy Sandefur on Jan 29th 2006
Check out this cool site for X-1 and other classics!
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They Resolved to Spend Quickly And Enjoy Themselves
Timothy Sandefur on Jan 29th 2006
Via Amber Taylor comes this story that scientists believe they’ve conclusively identified typhoid pfever as the plague that struck Athens during the Peloponnesian War. The plague is recounted in harrowing passages of Thucydides.
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Commerce Problems with Akhil Amar
Timothy Sandefur on Jan 29th 2006
In my first post on Akhil Reed Amar’s America’s Constitution: A Biography, I mentioned that there were some serious flaws in the book. One of the most glaring is his overly hasty treatment of the commerce clause. See pp. 106-08.
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Sandefur on Bork, Bowers v. Hardwick’s Dissent and Self-Ownership
Jonathan Rowe on Jan 29th 2006
I was rereading part of Sandefur’s classic article from the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy and noticed how footnote 203 posits a sentiment similar to that of my recent post on Justices Blackmun and Stevens, pro-sodomite Lockeans:
[FN203]. Douglas B. Rasmussen, Why Individual Rights?, in INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS RECONSIDERED: ARE THE TRUTHS OF THE U.S. DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE LASTING?, supra note 123, at 113, 119-26. The notion of self-directed personal flourishing that Rasmussen describes was most consistently asserted by Justice Blackmun:
We protect those rights not because they contribute, in some direct and material way, to the general public welfare, but because they form so central a part of an individual’s life. “[T]he concept of privacy embodies the ‘moral fact that a person belongs to himself and not others nor to society as a whole.”‘ Bowers v. Hardwick, 478 U.S. 186, 204 (1986) (Blackmun, J., dissenting) (alteration in original) (citation omitted). Cf. Lawrence, 123 S. Ct. at 2478 (”[A]dults may choose to enter upon [a sexual] relationship in the confines of their homes and their own private lives and still retain their dignity as free persons…. The liberty protected by the Constitution allows homosexual persons the right to make this choice.”). It is not by accident that Robert Bork centers his legal theory on an attack on this passage from Justice Blackmun’s Bowers dissent: “That view of the individual and his obligations can hardly be taken seriously,” he writes. BORK, supra note 4, at 121. “In [the conservative originalist] view of morality and responsibility, no husband or wife, no father or mother, should act on the principle that a ‘person belongs to himself and not to others.’ No citizen should take the view that no part of him belongs to ’society as a whole.”‘ Id. at 121-22. A comparison to Bork’s view is found in a letter from Thomas Jefferson to James Monroe:
If we are made in some degree for others, yet in a greater we are made for ourselves. It were contrary to feeling & indeed ridiculous to suppose that a man had less right in himself than one of his neighbors or indeed all of them put together. This would be slavery & not … liberty …. Nothing could so completely divest us of that liberty as the establishment of the opinion that the state had a perpetual right to [its] members. This to men of certain ways of thinking would be to annihilate the blessing of existence ….Letter from Thomas Jefferson to James Monroe (May 20, 1782), in THOMAS JEFFERSON: WRITINGS, supra note 14, at 777, 779.
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The Political Economy of Battlestar Galactica
Timothy Sandefur on Jan 28th 2006

Last night’s episode of Battlestar Galactica was disappointing in some ways, but hopeful in others. The plot centered around nasty dealings within the black market that has sprung up among the fleet. This market apparently consists of people trading goods and services (including prostitution) for ration coupons. Why the market is “black” is unclear—Apollo says that it’s illegal, but why would the authorities make it illegal for people to trade ration coupons?
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